HDI Engine

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[stevie_b]

If they used the 70hp version it would be a flyer!! 

[ChrisIrwin]

It's the way the power is delivered that stinks

[turbolag]

It's the way the power is delivered that stinks

Not to mention the nasty oil burning exhaust pong!   

[ChrisIrwin]

Just found out toyota have binned it for the Aygo - giving the reason of insufficiently better emissions than the petrol versus the negative effects on performace. Says it all really...

[ade hook]

isn't the  aygo engine a rebadged ford tdci engine made in the uk?
sure i read that somewhere

[Wheelygoodstuff]

Ade,
The answer to that is Yeah...but....no....but.
The engine is a 1.4 hdi PSA unit(Peugeot/Citroen)......BUT!!!!! Ford now use the whole range of PSA HDI engines all across their range, but badged as TDCI engines.
Rich

[ade hook]

just found that it was a ford/psa venture

Ford DLD engine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The DLD automobile engine family is a group of compact straight-4 Diesel engines developed jointly by Ford Motor Company and the PSA Group (Peugeot/Citroën). The Ford/PSA joint-venture for the production of the DLD was announced in September, 1998. The engines are produced at Ford's Dagenham Engine plant in Dagenham, United Kingdom.
The straight-4 engines are sold under the Duratorq TDCi name by Ford, and as the HDi by Citroën and Peugeot. Mazda also uses the DLD engine in the Mazda2 and the Mazda 3, calling it the MZ-CD or CiTD.
Officially, there are two families of engines in the range:
The 1.4 L DLD-414 is generally non-intercooled
The 1.6 L DLD-416 always intercooled
Ford later added their unrelated 1.8 L DLD-418 engine to the DLD family, though it is properly part of the Ford Endura engine family.
Contents
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1 DLD-414
2 DLD-416
3 DLD-418
4 See also
5 References
[edit]DLD-414

The Duratorq DLD-414 (or DV4) is a 1.4 L (1398 cc/85 in³) straight-4 turbo-Diesel. Output is 50 kW (67 hp) at 4500 rpm and 160 N·m (117 ft·lbf) at 2000 rpm.
The DV4 is available in two versions:
One, an 8-valve design, uses a Borg-Warner KP35 turbocharger but no intercooler. This is the same turbocharger as the Renault K9K Diesel. It is EURO3 compliant, but will receive a Diesel particulate filter from 2006 to make it EURO4 compliant. It also uses Delphi Automotive's DCR1400 common-rail injection system.
A second version uses a DOHC 16-valve design, with an intercooled variable geometry turbine. This derivation will no longer be built from 2006, as it will not be able to comply with the EURO4 regulations.
Applications:
8-value non-intercooled, 55 PS (54 hp/40 kW) and 96 ft·lbf (130 N·m)
2005-present Citroën C1/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo 1.4 HDi
8-valve non-intercooled, 68 PS (67 hp/50 kW) and 111 ft·lbf (150 N·m)
2003–present Citroën C2 1.4 HDi
8-valve non-intercooled, 68 PS (67 hp/50 kW) and 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m)
2002–present Citroën C3 1.4 HDi
2002–present Ford Fiesta 1.4 TDCi
2002–present Ford Fusion (European) 1.4 TDCi
2002–present Peugeot 206 1.4 HDi
2005–present Peugeot 1007 1.4 HDi
16-valve intercooled, 90 PS (89 hp/66 kW) and 147 ft·lbf (200 N·m)
2001–2005 Citroën C3 1.4 HDi 16V
2002–2005 Suzuki Liana 1.4 DDiS
Model   Output   Notes
DV4 TD   70 PS (69 hp/51 kW)   turbo-Diesel
DV4 TED4   92 PS (90 hp/67 kW)   turbo-Diesel 16-valve
[edit]DLD-416

[deeyup]

there's a guy on the citroen forums whos had nothing but trouble with his C1 HDi. 90% due to engine problems.
Ask him and he'd tell you to stay away from the diesel engine in favour of walking.
With diesel costing 10%more at the pump, but only giving 10% better mpg, it makes no point in spending the extra to buy it.

[asmanthebell]

HDI = Waste of money just a brand name for crap

[Wheelygoodstuff]

Asman,
Not true!!!! The HDI engine is a huge success!! And is normally very reliable. It appears that the C1 is the only version of the engine without a turbo. Maybe that is the problem? The hdi engine set the standard for new common rail diesels. Ford use them in the Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo. All very reliable cars(engine wise)
Sounds more like a friday afternoon...one more before you knock off....kind of car??
Rich

[turbolag]

The C1 is turbo'd, but not intercooled.  You'd never get a normally aspirated diesel efficient enough to meet the EuroIV emissions regs.

Small diesels are pointless - they're heavier, more complicated, more expensive to produce, and often little or no no more economical that their small bore sparker counterparts, require more frequent and more intensive servicing, cost more to insure model for model etc etc.  The break even point moves about a bit as technology advances, but it's still pegged way higher than 1.4 litres.